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March 20, 2005
Green-Eyed Grrl and DS on CIDN
My sixteen-year-old son was diagnosed with PDD-NOS at age two, when we took him to a doctor to discuss his newly discovered (by us) ability to read. Soon thereafter his diagnosis was changed to “high-functioning autism,” which is by no means a standard of any sort, and at best a very relative term to describe a person with autism who is more capable of social communication and less disabled by his unusual brain structure. More than what? Less than what? These distinctions are unclear.
More recently, high-functioning autism is lumped together with Asperger’s syndrome for diagnostic purposes. The more I study the two the less I believe they differ in any substantial way. However, for many parents, a diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome is more palatable than a diagnosis of autism, as for years autism has been characterized as a totally debilitating affliction (which ain’t necessarily so).
I asked my son to answer the following questions about The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. Here’s what an autistic teenager has to say about the book and specifically about Christopher, the (unlabeled) protagonist of the story.
GRN: Do you think Christopher is a realistic characterization of a teenager w/ autism?
DS: I believe that he is a realistic representation, but I have a sort of lessened “version” of autism, not something as severe as this representation, so my thoughts may not be as accurate on this subject.
GRN: Why do you think Christopher was not squeamish about picking up the dead and bloodied dog?
DS: Autistics have a very realistic view of life and death in general, as Christopher points out in his statement about the nonexistence of heaven in his mind, due to the fact that heaven is in space and dead people can’t reach space without rockets. So picking up a dead animal would be not much different from picking up a stack of books for an autistic. Granted, I would be pretty troubled if it was an animal I knew well (such as Lily, our recently deceased dog) but when it comes to other animals, such as the preserved infant pigs we dissected in a biology class, I find it just as simple as anything else, whereas my partners are frightened of even touching the pig, due to their “less grounded” views of death.
GRN: What are your thoughts about the faces Siobhan draws and Christopher’s reaction to them?
DS: The first part, where he draws them as a reference, seems very logical and helpful (for him, no different than notes in a math class) and thus, a normal autistic behavior. When Siobhan jokes about the reaction doing this may provoke from other people, and Christopher gets upset about it, that also seems normal for an autistic. The reasoning for this is that when I think people are making fun of me, I usually stop talking instantly and become very downcast. If they were simply having fun, but not maliciously, they often explain this, and everything goes on happily. Thus, it seems logical that a much more autistic person would have at least a similar reaction to my own.
GRN: What do you think about Christopher’s attitude toward jokes?
DS: In reference to jokes, I find that while he may find them difficult, I have a great sense of humor (or so those people say in response to my joking comments), as do many autistics. In fact, one renowned internet “aspie” who goes by the name of “oddizm” has an extensive collection of “You Might be an Aspie if…” jokes, in a parody/tribute to Jeff Foxworthy. So jokes may come as difficult to some with autism, to others it is natural. Really, not that different from a non-autistic.
GRN: Christopher says Siobhan taught him that people do a lot of talking without using any words. Is this something you’ve recognized in your experience?
DS: People do indeed do a lot of talking without any words, and it is very difficult for autistics to pick up on this body language. This is probably related to the tendency of the autistic to not make or even avoid eye contact. I usually avoid it myself, but why, I really can’t say. As such, I usually miss if someone is upset or stressed or jubilant unless they say something. Some autistics can’t even infer emotion from the tone of voice, and for them, conversation becomes much more difficult.
GRN: Christopher says, “I can’t tell lies.” Does his explanation make sense to you?
DS: As autistics (such as Christopher) tend to relay facts with a nearly meticulous precision, lying is very hard. He knows his age up to the current day, and when asked how old he is, will relay all this information. Because he often must relay all information, lying becomes a very difficult process, because he has to get all information across, and he cannot choose between details as quickly as someone who might just say “I went to the library” when they went to the movies. He states early on that thinking of one falsity produces many others, ranging from the simple, such as “This pen is red” to “There are cows in the room.” Obviously, this would make lying nigh impossible.
GRN: Christopher has a habit of taking all the letters in someone’s name, assigning each letter a numeric value (A=1, B=2, until Z=26), and adding them up to see if they match a prime number. Is your name a prime number, and is it easy for you to tell?
DS: Again, this is mostly possible because Christopher is a more “severe” autistic than me, which means he is more limited socially, but much more intelligent. It sort of makes him like a computer. I have no idea if my name’s number (137) is a prime number, but judging from a few quick divisor tests (adding up the digits to check for multiples of 3, looking at the end numbers for 2, 4, or 5, etc.) I think it is a prime number. Again, I really have no idea, but someone with more advanced autism would find this task as easy as lifting a small rock.
GRN: My name is a prime number (131), btw, but then again, I might be autistic. I’m just saying.
GRN: Do you think Christopher’s decision to run away seemed realistic?
DS: An autistic, when faced with a frightening decision, is usually put out of balance. In this case, they think even less rationally than a normal person, because they are less effective at adapting than a normal person. While running away may not have been the most likely choice, it was very realistic how he was portrayed in the following chapters.
GRN: Do you think that Christopher’s father is a bad person?
DS: The man was confronted with his wife cheating on him. That sort of thing causes immense stress, and like he said, the dog was quite polar in its attitudes. If a dog attacked you shortly after you had learned of your spouse cheating on you, you would probably retaliate on it quite viciously as well. Maybe not with a garden fork, but at least you would shove the dog away. This, combined with the fact that he tries to make amends with Christopher and attempts to be nice to him whenever possible, leads me to believe that he’s not exactly a bad person, but probably not in the best of mental states.
GRN: What do you think of Christopher’s mother?
DS: Clearly, she also cares for Christopher. However, she does not seem to care for his father much. Given that you should be very mindful of whom you marry, I think she may have been not exactly good. That said, she was willing to cooperate with Christopher’s father, and was also willing to take Christopher in after having abandoned him, so she is not exactly a bad person either. It’s not a very clear-cut persona in my opinion, so it’s hard to judge.
GRN: What do you think of Christopher’s eating habits? I mean, a ham sandwich with strawberry jam? Baked beans? Broccoli? Get real. You don’t eat any foods in combination, unless you count cheese/flour tortillas or noodles with butter.
DS: Christopher does have some strange eating habits, but I think this is mostly because of his avoidance of yellow or brown items. Some things will irritate an autistic so thoroughly that he/she will avoid them almost completely. I, for one, cannot stand the feel of cotton. I try to avoid touching cotton balls at any time, and sometimes even touching socks is a bit unnerving. This habit can cover anything that relates, and with something as broad as color being Christopher’s avoidance item, it is acceptable that he would have strange eating habits. In addition, the red food coloring bottle he carries would help him when eating yellow foods that he likes, which may amend it somewhat.
GRN: Overall, what is your opinion of this book? I know you’ve read it several times; why? Do you think that this book is a good introduction to people like Christopher? How so?
DS: I like this book quite a bit, mostly because of the interesting, yet off-topic points he brings up. An example would be the part with the three “intellectuals,” for lack of a better word, and the cow. I read it several times, mostly because it’s just a very interesting book. Giving you a “why” for my repetitions is difficult. When meeting people like Christopher, this book would have some helpful information, but often it’s best just to go with experience. You wouldn’t touch someone right off the bat when you meet them (well, maybe you would, but only in rare cases) and the autistic in question will often state explicitly that you shouldn’t touch him, if he is accustomed to this. Thus, this book is really quite descriptive, but it’s best read when you know a bit about autism; then you get an amazing novel.
Posted by Laurie at March 20, 2005 02:13 PM
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Thank you William and Laurie! I'm so glad to get both of your perspectives on the book - and glad to learn more about you. I'm going to read it a couple of times, and come back if I have any questions.
Thanks so much for contributing to the discussion!
Best,
Cara
Posted by: Cara at March 20, 2005 04:23 PM
Thanks for giving us this great perspective on the book and Christopher. Your son is so intelligent! I know I didn't sound that smart at 16. I especially liked his thoughts on the parents. I totally agree with him that it isn't easy to say whether they are "good" or "bad". Just like everyone else, they have faults as well as positive traits. Thanks you two!
Posted by: Vicki at March 20, 2005 05:06 PM
Thanks for the interview. I'm glad he shared his thoughts on the book.
Posted by: Lauren at March 20, 2005 05:13 PM
Laurie:
Are you familiar with the book "The Speed of Dark" by Elizabeth Moon? The book is set in the near future. Its protagonist is a high-functioning autistic man also. The descriptions of Christopher and Lou (the protagonist of "The Speed of Dark") are pretty congruent, even though Lou is a little higher-functioning than Christopher is. Lou lives on his own, has a job, and drives a car.
Elizabeth Moon is the mother of an autistic son also.
I've also been listening to Temple Grandin's book "Animals in Translation." Dr. Grandin sees parallels between some animal behavior and some autistic behavior. She also feels that being autistic herself gives her an edge in understanding animals.
This is fascinating subject material! And thanks for the thoughts from your son.
Posted by: Janice in GA at March 20, 2005 05:37 PM
Excellent questions and very well written answers. You guys Rock! I especially like the connect made by Laurie between the "genetic" nature of autistic behaviors. That coupled with Williams view of the father makes me wonder if the father was easy to throw off balance as well?!
Thanks for sharing you two!
Posted by: Wendy at March 21, 2005 09:28 PM
Wow, thank you both for this! Y'all added a level of depth to a book that I read last year, but one that has stayed with me.
Posted by: chris at March 22, 2005 09:19 AM
What a great interview! Thanks for providing another perspective to the story.
Posted by: Nancy at March 23, 2005 12:50 AM
Thanks for sharing your questions and answers Laurie and William. Having a bit of a background with autism, I agree with William that it makes for an amazing book.
Posted by: Kathleen at March 23, 2005 08:40 AM
Thank you Laurie and William! Your thoughts really added to the discussion!
Posted by: Christy at March 24, 2005 08:10 AM
Laurie and William, this is great. I love both of you. William gave me this book for Christmas. It has a very special meaning to me. For the first time since William was born, I have a view into the way his mind works. I told William tonight how proud I am of him. He is a wonderful role model for other autistics and willingly shares his experiences and insights with worried parents.
Posted by: Dad at March 25, 2005 12:57 AM
The whole time I was reading this book, I wondered how close the author was to having created an autistic character. I really appreciate Laurie and William's discussion on the matter.
Thank you!
Posted by: Eva at April 27, 2005 03:21 PM
Thank you so much for posting that. My son is on the autism/asperger's continuum - I took him to a neurologist when he was 3ish and she thought I was nuts, but he was diagnosed years later with non-verbal learning disorder and OCD. He's now almost 11. He does have a great sense of humor, which gets us through a lot. He also has a VERY difficult time reading people, and will get picked on at school, then be happy that these same boys say they want to be friends with him. We have a lot of talks about people's motivations and such. I'm sure I'm somewhere on that continuum, too - I haven't thought about it that much, but I do technical documention indexing, which is all about recognizing patterns in text. I can write a really accurate thorough index for highly technical books, books beyond my grasp. The process involves seeing the patterns of ideas and how they relate to each other. But I definitely lack social skills. lol
Posted by: Patti at April 30, 2005 05:09 PM
